He did not think of himself as either an amateur or a professional artist but was nevertheless a master in drawing and painting techniques. For him drawing laid the basis for visual art. He saw himself as a drawing artist in which he mainly concerned himself with the painterly and poetic aspects of drawing. He lived in Twente but regularly visited Drenthe with his associates. After his retirement he turned his barber’s shop into a studio. Art had been his main interest throughout his life. The hairdressing salon had been a side line.